# Rational Numbers and Proportional Reasoning Part C: Absolute and Relative Reasoning (30 minutes)

Rational numbers or fractions can be used in many different ways. One source of confusion, especially with fractions, is the difference between absolute and relative reasoning. In Part A, we used a rational number to compare a part to a whole. It’s important to understand, however, that there is more than one way to make a comparison.

Here is a situation that you can think about numerically in at least two different ways: A baby and an adult both gain two pounds in one month.

• You could think about the fact that each of them gained an equal amount of weight — two pounds.
• You could think about the fact that the baby’s gain was greater, because the gain was a greater percentage of the baby’s original weight than of the adult’s original weight.

These are examples of two types of reasoning. The first uses absolute reasoning, which refers to a quantity by itself, without respect to its relation to other quantities (each gains two pounds, period). In contrast, the second uses relative reasoning, which compares that quantity to the originals to see how they relate to one another (the baby’s gain is greater with respect to its original weight).

We can relate these two types of reasoning to operations. Absolute thinking is additive: Two boys each grew two inches last year. (Add two inches to their original heights.) In contrast, relative thinking is multiplicative — the two inches might be 1/10 of the infant boy’s prior height but only 1/24 of the first grader’s prior height. See Note 7 below.

Problem C1
a. Think about the meaning of the term “more.” Make a list of several situations using the term “more.” Which of these situations use absolute reasoning, and which use relative reasoning?
b. Use the term “more” in four different problems, one for each of the four basic operations.

Problems C2-C5 discuss ratio as a comparative index, requiring relative and multiplicative thinking. As you do these problems, think about the ways in which they use both relative and absolute reasoning. See Note 8 below.

Problem C2
Which of these rectangles is most square: 75′ by 114′, 455′ by 494′, or 284′ by 245′?

Video Segment
In this segment, Vicki and Nancy explore several different methods for solving the problem of which rectangle is more square. They settle for relative reasoning but then go on to explore yet another, more visual method. Watch this segment after you’ve completed Problem C2.

Which method did you come up with to solve this problem?

You can find this segment on the session video approximately 17 minutes and 58 seconds after the Annenberg Media logo.

Problem C3
Each carton below contains some white eggs and some brown eggs. Which has more brown eggs?

Problem C4
Describe how you would decide which ski ramp is steeper, Ramp A or Ramp B:

Problem C5
What kind of information is necessary to describe the “crowdedness” of an elevator?

### Notes

Note 7
To learn more about absolute and relative reasoning, go to Learning Math: Patterns, Functions, and Algebra, Session 4.

Note 8
The difference between absolute and relative reasoning is critical to the study of proportions. It is important to understand that any additive situation is absolute and cannot be a proportion. All proportions are relative and relate the change to the original; thus, they are multiplicative. For example, “Jill has three more brothers than Kim” is an absolute and additive relationship and is not a proportion. “Kari has twice as many brothers as Leanne” is a relative and multiplicative relationship and is a proportion.

### Solutions

Problem C1
Answers will vary. Here are some possibilities:

a. Joan has \$100. Maria has \$25 more than Joan does. This situation uses the word “more” in an absolute sense.
Kids who eat sugar have 25% more cavities than kids who don’t. This situation uses the word “more” in a relative sense.
b. Addition: Nina had six plants in her garden before she planted three more. How many does she have now?

Subtraction: Jen has 100 stickers, 20 more than Mike. How many does Mike have?

Multiplication: Millie has done three times more homework problems than Suzy, who has done five. How many problems did Millie finish?

Division: Millie has done 15 homework problems, three times more than Suzy. How many has Suzy done?

Problem C2
Each of the rectangles has one dimension that is 39 feet longer than the other. However, 39 feet is relatively large for the 75′ by 114′ rectangle and relatively small for the 455′ by 494′ rectangle. This means that in the 455′ by 494′ rectangle, the difference in dimension will be least important; therefore, this rectangle is the most square in a relative sense.

Problem C3
Using absolute reasoning, there are more brown eggs in the first carton (seven) than in the second (five). However, using relative reasoning, there are more brown eggs in the second carton (5/12) than in the first (7/18). So, depending on which way we look at it, either carton could have “more” brown eggs.

Problem C4
Though the second ski ramp is taller (an absolute comparison), it may or may not be steeper (a relative comparison). You would need to know the lengths of A and B and then look at the fractions 7/A and 10/B. The greater fraction corresponds to the steeper ski ramp.

Problem C5
Probably the two most important things you need to know are the capacity (or size) of the elevator and the number of people in it. An elevator with four passengers may be very crowded or relatively empty, depending on how many people it is intended to carry comfortably. A relative comparison is required.