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In Search of the Novel:Teacher-TalkNovel

Subject: Re: Socratic seminar Suggestions

From: Sue Oliver (soliver@d20.co.edu)
Date: Mon Apr 17 2000 - 18:58:55 EDT


Andrea,
I would love the information. My fax is 719-598-8402 or my address is Eagleview
Middle School, 1325 Vindicator Drive, Colorado Springs, CO 80919 Thank you
very much!!
Sue Oliver

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> Eric,
> I do it several ways: The ideal way is with all of the students within
> a circle, and with the teacher out of the circle and not making eye contact
> with the students. I usually busied myself writing the student's initials
> each time they spoke. (This is because you are the authority figure, and
> they will constantly appeal to you for help if you remain within that
> circle.) I usually begin the seminar with a quotation from/about the novel
> (work) or a short section of the text of the novel. My students usually
> come prepared with things they would like to discuss. Some student is
> chosen leader for the pd. Someone else in the group is a mediator, someone
> else tries to advance the discussion; etc. Eventually, during the entire
> school year, each student has a chance at each of these roles. This model
> is called the St. John's Model after St. John's College in Annapolis,
> Maryland, where the curriculum is nothing but Great Books for the four years
> of college. What a wonderful education!!
> The other way, and one that I think would be helpful for you, is the
> Circle within a Circle Model. Pair the students. The discussion group is
> the inside circle. The partners sit in the outside circle opposite their
> partner in the discussion group so that they can have eye contact. There is
> a form each person must use to evaluate the participation of his/her
> partner. After about 15-20 minutes, move the outside people to the inside
> circle and the opposite. This way everyone has a chance to participate.
> Collect the evaluation forms at the end of both discussions. The next day
> let the partners come together to discuss the discussion and their
> participation. This way is much more manageable for a huge group like the
> one you have.
> The third discussion technique that I use is to divide the class into 6
> groups, and each group has a mini-discussion on a specific aspect of the
> chapter/s (Discussion Director, Literary Luminary, Illustrator, Connector,
> Summarizer and Vocabulary Enricher, and then one person from each group
> presents the findings to the entire class, with time for questions. This
> pack is large and will have to be mailed.
> If anyone would like copies of the eval. form for the Circle within a
> Circle Model, or the 6 group Model I will fax/send them to you when I
> receive proper info from you.
> Questions about all of this... write to me. Hope that I have helped
> you, Eric.
>
> Andrea S. Martine
> Beaver Area English/Language Arts Coach, K-12
> Beaver, PA 15009
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> > From: "Eric" <ericlinda@capcity.com>
> > To: Multiple recipients of list <Teacher-TalkNovel@learner.org>
> > Subject: Re: Class size and the Socratic seminar
> > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:06:15 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> > Sue-- Direct your question to Diana Russell at Yorktown High School,
> Arlington, VA.
> > She is the one teaching Mockingbird in the video, and she has about 30
> students.
> > Eric Christenson
> >
> > Sue Olive wrote:
> >
> > > I need some suggestions on how to conduct a Socratic seminar when I have
> classes
> > > that range from 28-30 students. On the videos the classes have seemed
> rather
> > > small, but that may be due to camera angle. Any suggestions on seminars
> in
> > > large classes?
> > > Sue Oliver
> > >
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> Eric,<BR>
> I do it several ways: The ideal way is with all of the students within a circle,
and
with the teacher <B>out of the circle</B> and not making eye contact with the
students. I
usually busied myself writing the student's initials each time they spoke.
(This is
because you are the authority figure, and they will constantly appeal to you for
help if
you remain within that circle.) I usually begin the seminar with a quotation
from/about
the novel (work) or a short section of the text of the novel. My students
usually come
prepared with things they would like to discuss. Some student is chosen leader
for the
pd. Someone else in the group is a mediator, someone else tries to advance the
discussion; etc. Eventually, during the entire school year, each student has a
chance at
each of these roles. This model is called the St. John's Model after St. John's
College
in Annapolis, Maryland, where the curriculum is nothing but Great Books for the
four years
of college. What a !
> !
> wonderful education!!<BR>
> The other way,<B> and one that I think would be helpful for you</B>, is the Circle
within a Circle Model. Pair the students. The discussion group is the <B>
inside</B>
circle. The partners sit in the outside circle opposite their partner in the
discussion
group so that they can have eye contact. There is a form each person must use
to evaluate
the participation of his/her partner. After about 15-20 minutes, move the
outside people
to the inside circle and the opposite. This way everyone has a chance to
participate.
Collect the evaluation forms at the end of both discussions. The next day let
the
partners come together to discuss the discussion and their participation. This
way is
much more manageable for a huge group like the one you have.<BR>
> The third discussion technique that I use is to divide the class into 6 groups, and
each group has a mini-discussion on a specific aspect of the chapter/s
(Discussion
Director, Literary Luminary, Illustrator, Connector, Summarizer and Vocabulary
Enricher,
and then one person from each group presents the findings to the entire class,
with time
for questions. This pack is large and will have to be mailed. <BR>
> If anyone would like copies of the eval. form for the Circle within a Circle Model,
or the 6 group Model I will fax/send them to you when I receive proper info from
you. <BR>

> Questions about all of this... write to me. Hope that I have helped you, Eric.<BR>
> <BR>
> Andrea S. Martine <BR>
> Beaver Area English/Language Arts Coach, K-12<BR>
> Beaver, PA 15009 <BR>
> ----------<BR>
> > From: "Eric" <ericlinda@capcity.com><BR>
> > To: Multiple recipients of list <Teacher-TalkNovel@learner.org> <BR>
> > Subject: Re: Class size and the Socratic seminar <BR>
> > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:06:15 -0400 (EDT)<BR>
> > <BR>
> > Sue-- Direct your question to Diana Russell at Yorktown High School, Arlington,
VA.<BR>
> > She is the one teaching Mockingbird in the video, and she has about 30 students.<BR>
> > Eric Christenson<BR>
> > <BR>
> > Sue Olive wrote:<BR>
> > <BR>
> > > I need some suggestions on how to conduct a Socratic seminar when I have classes<BR>
> > > that range from 28-30 students. On the videos the classes have seemed rather<BR>
> > > small, but that may be due to camera angle. Any suggestions on seminars in<BR>
> > > large classes?<BR>
> > > Sue Oliver<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > ---------------------------------------------<BR>
> > > Academy School District Twenty 20Mail<BR>
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