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Forum: Looking at Learning... Again
Topic: Teaching and Learning
Topic Posted by: Melissa Cheung
Date Posted: Mon Feb 15 5:01:23 US/Eastern 1999
Topic Description: What are your beliefs about how people learn? How does your teaching style and school system work to accommodate how people learn?
Posted by: Anna Marie E. Forte'
Date posted: Sat May 1 21:16:10 US/Eastern 1999
Subject: The importance of the test score
I enjoy workshops like "The Many Faces of Learning". My problem
comes when the Districts' not concern with how kids learn but
with what they score on the standardized test. My job performance
is based on my school's index, not on methods I use to teach or
the intelligence of my students. They provide us with plenty
professional development but in the end it is the score that counts.
Does anyone have any suggestions how to deal with this situation?
Subject: The importance of test scores
Reply Posted by: Becky Jackson
Date Posted: Sun Apr 29 2:47:31 2001
Don't worry about it. The education pendulum will swing back so that not so much emphasis is put on test score results. This too shall pass as my mother always says. Just play the game. Do the best job you can. Keep your students enthused and enjoy the children. That is what is important for both you and your students.
Subject: The importance of the test score
Reply Posted by: Jo Kroll
Organization: Clark County School District
Date Posted: Wed May 2 22:07:19 2001
My suggestion to you would be to continue teaching in the way that you feel you are reaching the most students. The bottom line is, we are hired to help students learn as much as they can in a learning atmosphere that we have created, not to get the highest test scores in the nation. Standardized tests do not always provide the clearest picture of the learning that has taken place withing our classroom. Remember what your goals are for yourself and for your students. Good luck!
Subject: Test Scores
Reply Posted by: Sharon Pearson
Date Posted: Mon May 7 22:08:18 2001
When test scores actually reflect learning and not pumped up scores to satisfy the higher ups, I will start worrying about those test scores. I tell my parents to take the scores with a grain of salt. Do they really mean anything? Did Susie get a good night's sleep? Oops--down go the grades. Did the teacher teach the test? Yea--up go the test scores. Is it difficult for Johnny to take any test? Too bad--down go the test scores. Was prior knowledge there for you to start the year, therefore you were able to focus on the curriculum to be taught? Oh well...down go the test scores.
Subject: test scores
Reply Posted by: Scott Berg
Date Posted: Tue May 8 12:39:35 2001
We are told not to "stress out" our kids and yet "get
those test scores up!!!" I say just teach. Test scores
don't take look at individual situations such as lack of
sleep, fight with mom, prior knowledge, ect. As of yet,
we aren't fired for test scores, so give your students all
that you can to prepare them for life and sleep well at
Subject: test scores
Reply Posted by: Prudence Ganz
Date Posted: Tue May 8 17:18:19 2001
You just have to do the best you can. Teach your
students the things they need to know, have fun with
them and make the learning exciting. Don't worry about
the "test scores". There are so many variables that get
in the way on the day of the test ie: how the students are
feeling, how the teacher is feeling, did they eat
breakfast, get a good nights sleep, did the teacher
teach to the test etc. All of these and many more
variables get in the way of an accurate result of what the
students have actually learned. So my suggestion is to
be a Teacher not a "test result worry wart." :)
Subject: test scores...HELP!
Reply Posted by: Leslie Broidy
Date Posted: Wed May 9 22:59:06 2001
I find test scores, especially this time of year, to be some what frustrating. I've been spending days and days to make sure I've covered everthing in the curriculum so that my students will have at least a fighting chance and in the end their abilities, prior knowledge, prior school experiences, and desire will win!!! I went through my attendance folder and found that out of 30 fourth grade students only 16 started the year with me. I just received two students this week that tested at the primer level!!! What's a teacher to do?
Subject: Jumping on..
Reply Posted by: Lai Lum
Date Posted: Thu May 17 5:16:25 2001
I too must jump on to this band wagon for test scores.
I have to agree with the general idea of teaching what you believe to be the best education you can give a student but I must admit it is easier said then done. I feel like I have poured my heart and soul into my class knowing that they can only do as well as how their day is or what they feel like. It is a fustration but a mentor once told me that we need to look at the big picture, if you never found out about the scores Would you be satisfied with how you taught that class, would you be proud to say they were your students next year to the third grade teacher they recieve. I honestly can say YES!!! I have also found out it helps to try and not read the newspaper editorials and listen to the radio too often, it will bring this subject up way too often and you will get further fustration if you do and your own self talk will become self dought, or at least that was me...
Like everyone is saying, try not to dwell on it... though we get looked at and talked to, we have not gotten fired, and as we say to others (students) learn from our mistakes.. just don't let it happen repeatedly three times in a row year after year... then getting fired could actually come up.. anyway, talking too much and mummbling.
Believe in yourself and "Don't worry, Be Happy!!!"
Reply Posted by: Stacie Noordeloos
Organization: Venice High School
Date Posted: Tue Mar 19 18:49:11 2002
We are having to deal with FCAT testing in our state. We are a school that has come together and tried to concentrate on helping our students to improve writing, math and reading techniques. I think this can be positive
in some ways...since we are all working together for a common goal. In other ways it can be a hassle. We are spending precious instruction time to "teach to a test". We lose some of the ability to be individual in our approach to teaching.
I understand that we must be sure that schools are teaching as much to the students as possible, but I don't think it is wise to judge a school by test scores. There are too many facets to learning experiences to judge them solely by one test.